Hop Valley Brewing Co.
Hop Valley Brewing Co.
980 Kruse Way
Springfield, OR 97477
(541) 744-3330
Hop Valley Brewing Co.’s website
This is the kind of restaurant you would get if the Chief Operating Officer of Chili’s decided to set up a new business of his own. All the hardware and fancy control systems are in place…in fact, they are WAY overdone for a single location restaurant…but there’s still something missing.
What’s missing is a good marketing plan. By marketing, I don’t mean advertising. I mean the more important aspect of marketing which involves creating a brand strategy and brand position, and then making sure the layout, decorations, materials, menu, food, culture and service system of the restaurant fit this position perfectly. That’s exactly what Hop Valley badly needs to make it a more successful venture.
Let’s back up a bit here to first describe Hop Valley Brew Co. as it now exists. Basically, it’s a big brew pub that makes beer on premises like Steelhead or a couple other places do as well. Food offerings are burgers, ribs, sandwiches, and steaks. So far, so good.
Hop Valley Brew does not appear to have any history of any kind (as the Eugene Burger Blog also pointed out). It just sorta popped up one day looking all fresh and new. They seem to have realized at some point how this feels a bit “empty”, so now they have added some photos on the wall which attempt to simulate history: photos of some of the staff and premises which have been heavily photoshopped to make them look old and faded, then printed on some sort of canvas and frame, and finally attached to the wall with four big shiny Home Depot screws. Wow. Convincing…
In terms of hardware, Hop Valley has everything you would expect to find in a big chain restaurant. Fancy uniforms, complex computer ordering systems, a full line of Hop Valley branded clothing and knick-knacks for customers to purchase, a super fancy website, etc. They also got their own custom building and own parking lot. It appears the C.O.O. of Chili’s saved up all of his money and poured it into this place. (Too bad he did not also recruit the Chili’s marketing director to join the venture in the planning stages. All of the following mistakes could have been avoided with a talented strategic planner.)
Layout-wise, it’s a miss. Booths are lined up against the windows, with some of the booths getting strong sunlight and some getting none at all. Since the building was custom built for this restaurant, why didn’t they think about this and place the windows properly? Aside from the train-car-like line of booths, the rest of the seating is tables and chairs scattered around a big open area in the middle. Definitely I would not be happy sitting at one of those exposed tables. The ceiling is acoustic tiles painted dark brown with blacked-out air vent piping, which is pretty standard stuff, but the ceilings are way too high, giving the place a warehouse-y, Chuck E. Cheese-y feeling. They also have a bar area at one end which is somewhat separated from the eating area, but seems oddly out of place. Again, the overly high ceilings kill the feeling.
Service-wise, it’s also a miss. Every staff member has a cold-ish, not friendly, and not-happy-with-their-job attitude. They are professional but that’s all. Human robots. On the other hand, they may have all broken up with their respective boyfriends and girlfriends that day. But I doubt it.
Menu-wise, it’s a big miss for me, mainly due to their burgers. The menu clearly states “Due to the smoking process, our burgers stay pink in the middle no matter how well done.” Uhhh…ok…but sorry, that sounds like BS to me. So I asked the waiter if there was any way possible that they could cook my burger all the way through so there would be no pink? His answer was “No, it will always be pink inside because of the pork seasoning that is mixed into the beef”. BS alert is flashing bright red now since the waiter’s explanation is different than the menu’s explanation. End result, I did not order a burger even though that was what I came here for. (Internet explanation for why fully-cooked meat might still remain pink inside…all very unhealthy and unappetizing sounding).
Fish & “Chips”: What do you expect when you order this world famous dish? Deep-fried fish and french fries. Some places serve thick fries, and some places serve regular fries, but you always get fries…except at Hop Valley where you get oily cold potato chips. Plus the fish is rubbery cod instead of halibut.
Side of fries we ordered to rectify the “chips” issue: Cold. Boring. Sysco. (Sysco is a huge restaurant supply conglomerate that provides so so food materials and supplies nationwide.) Sysco ketchup on the table did not help the Sysco fries come to life.
Chicken Strips with BBQ sauce: Batter was supposed to be made from Hop Valley beer, but I could not taste any difference. The batter was very crispy and brown outside but wet inside (fryer oil was probably too hot). BBQ sauce was thin and light on flavor. It tasted Sysco-tastic.
Beer: Better than Budweiser but not as good as Ninkasi or even Steelhead. I don’t think Sysco makes craft beer, but if they did, this is what it would taste like.
Summary: The idea was a good one, and the hardware is very professional and big chain-ish, but everything else is a big miss-ish.







Hey! Thanks for the mention.
Although I was likely not quite as harsh in my review (a style thing more than anything), I couldn’t disagree with most of your review. The place is fairly unsatisfying.
Still, I think that you were maybe a bit harsh on their beer selection. The beer sampler gives an idea of the totality of their beer picture, and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed at least three of them, and didn’t mind the others at all. I would easily put it near or on par with Steelhead (it’s no Ninkasi though).
I am also tickled at the thought that the newly added, “antiqued,” photos were maybe in part spurred by my review. That would be something.
wow, too tired to be posting. Try, “I couldn’t disagree with most of your review.”
True, I only tried one beer (the Alphaholic IPA). But I was getting excited with the fun SYSCO references, so I ran with it.
Since you all seemed confused about “the smoking process” used at hop valley, here it is… Smoking and curing does create a pink color in cooked meat… read your own link from your post and you will see that Nitrate’s and Carbon can cause meat to stay pink. Nitrate’s are present in curing salt, a commonly used ingredient in sausage making… Carbon, well what do you think happens when you burn wood? As far as the hop valley story… Did you even read the menu? There is a story explaining the creation of hop valley on the back cover of the menu, and has been there since day one. Next time you want to harsh a local establishment, get your facts straight!!!
P.S. the owners are all locals… Not one of them has ever had any ties to “chili’s”
@Dave:
Chili’s C.O.O.: It’s hyperbole to describe the overly corporate and lacking-in-friendliness-or-authenticity feeling of Hop Valley Brew Co.
Pink: No matter what your explanation of pink meat may be, from a marketing point of view, it’s a stupid move. Just my glorious opinion.
By the way, nitrates and nitrites are considered to be unhealthy by many: http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/07/08/22/the-dangers-of-nitrites-the-foods-they-are-found-in-and-why-you-want-to-avoid-them.htm
Are my facts straight yet?
By the way, I wonder why the meat at Wagon Yard BBQ is not pink inside? They also cook everything with a wood smoker.
So the chili’s reference is the tool of a poet? My we have a high opinion of ourselves! interesting… as far as getting facts straight, the one’s you mentioned are getting there, but you’ve omitted so much more. Yes nitrates are “unhealthy” in large quantities, just like salt, white sugar, processed flour, alcohol, and any corn derivatives… to mention a few.
I suppose you’ll only be happy with a bowl of rice, just skip the yum sauce. as far as glorious opinion, I consider it cancerous! Oh and Wagon Yard BBQ probably doesn’t adhere to classic French and Italian cooking techniques, thereby avoiding the pink color that scares you so much. Very nice broadband research though, must have taken you a while to find the articles you need. Have a great life!
“classic French and Italian cooking techniques”?
“one’s”?
“just skip the yum sauce”?
Give the web browser a rest and read a cook book!
The facts that you mentioned
Yum sauce is the only “un-Healthy” item at cafe yum… I would think it a favorite spot for you!
BS alert on the “classic French and Italian cooking techniques”.
Seems the lack of authenticity and frequent BS’ing is an ongoing theme for Hop Valley Brew Co.
Sysco ketchup says it all.
wowza!
I’ve been to Hop Valley half a dozen times now, and love it. I’ve had the beer sampler (unlike the reviewer, who thought it good journalism to just try one and judge the brewery as a whole based on that), and found many of the beers to be delicious, and the DD Blonde in particular is amazing. The food isn’t gourmet, but it’s good, classic pub grub, and there are some items that really stand out, like the Reuben and the BLT(amazing!). I actually prefer cod to halibut when I order fish and chips; this is a preference thing, to be sure, but cod fish and chips is not strange, or unusual.
Also, they have great desserts.
I’ve always had really friendly service there. My guess is that what you experienced service-wise was a fluke.
Potato chips instead of fries is not unusual?! Can you name one other restaurant in the entire Springfield/Eugene area that serves potato chips with this dish?
As for “classic pub grub”, I don’t think the pink burgers, Sysco fries, Sysco ketchup, watery BBQ sauce, or “fish ‘n potato chips” would be considered classic.
But glad you liked it.
Still Scared of pink meat? better swear off ham! Looks like I’m not the only Hop fan to see the true BS in this blog! Maybe you should only rate a brewery if your a beer fan, have tried more than one of the twelve styles available, and don’t have a deep seeded hatred of anything culinarily unfamiliar!
You should organize more of your friends to leave comments. All this activity is raising my profile on Google.
Prediction: Hop Valley Brewing Co. will be out of business before Feb 2011. Hey, two years is a good run for people with very little restaurant experience.
Correction: The building was not custom made for Hop Valley Brewing. Thanks to AD for the heads up.
I didn’t say anything about potato chips; did you read my comment? You rated cod as below halibut in a fish and chips meal, and I simply replied that cod is actually quite normal for this dish, and I know many who prefer it, myself included.
At the moment the business is growing, not shrinking. If your prediction were to be put in the form of a wager, I’d take you up on that bet.
Sorry, I thought you meant to say potato chips were normal (“but cod fish and chips is not strange, or unusual.”) I guess you meant to say that cod is normal.
I agree that cod is an often seen substitute for halibut. Usually about $3-4 cheaper than halibut at the places that offer both versions. Personally, I always go for halibut.
How do you know “the business is growing”?
*shrug* I’ve heard they’re doing well. Of course, it’s easy to just take something like that on faith. I certainly hope they are; I’d like to be able to order beer in my personalized 20oz mug for the pint price for quite awhile.
Did you hear about that promotion they’re doing? They don’t have many mugs left (they are hung over the bar). It’s an ingenious program.
DD Blonde got Bronze at the World Beer Cup in the American Style Wheat category.
Sorry I am a bit confused smoked burgers? Smoking is usually done slow and low (as in low temp for a long time) that just seems wrong for a burger. It would be like boot leather wouldn’t it? Are we really talking about grilling, because there is a difference between smoking and grilling. Also when was a hamburger (smoked or otherwise) considered part of “classic” French or Italian Cuisine? Could someone post the description of the menu item in question (from the menu) so I could get a better idea of what is being discussed? As it is a smoked burger just seems wrong to me. Thanks
Here is a pdf file of the menu. Check out the burger description on page 4. I still don’t get the point or even the process. http://www.hopvalleybrewing.com/pdf/current_menu.pdf
Check out Steelhead Brewing Co. for a slightly unimpressive yet still much better option than Hop Valley.
http://eugenified.com/reviews/steelhead-brewing/
That bartender lady at Hop Valley is painfully beautiful. In fact you should give an additional star to your rating just for that fact alone.
A friend reported that they recently tried Hop Valley and found it to be totally disgusting. Terrible food (worse than even I described above) and terrible service. Seems the owners will need to spend more time trying to fix the problems rather than allegedly trying to fill the internet with fake positive reviews and/or trying to erase negative reviews.
By the way, recently the following update comment was mysteriously removed from Yelp after a “reader” complained: “One of the owners of this place took some offense with my review, and we got into a big ‘back and forth’ on my blog. Pretty funny stuff, but I think his/her time would be better spent fixing the problems rather than arguing with bloggers like me.”
Also note the clearly fake consumer review someone added above in the comments section here. “Sarah”. Yeah, right.
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